Regarding "Fire Down Below" Was the film cut after test screenings?

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MMCK2

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Having saw two different trailers for "Fire Down Below", I have noticed a lot of scenes which don't appear in the finished film. One scene in particular is set at night where an orange and white colored tanker collides with a car (there is also a picture on the back of the UK VHS cover of this tanker and a guy hanging from what looks like a platform with Seagal standing above him and green toxic waste pouring on top of the guy). Also I have saw an alternative version of the petrol station scene where the place actually ignites after the lorry crashes into the pumps. These appear mostly in the UK video trailer which is seen on the rental copy of "Conspiricy Theory". The film to me always looked as if it had been hastily re-edited/reshot, possibly after dissapointing test screenings. It looks watered down and I feel does not deserve the 18 certificate rating it received in the UK (I mean there is very little bad language and also the gunfights and martial arts are quite tame, we don't even see blood during the shoot out in the mine).

Can anyone shed any light on this?

Peace

MMCK
 
Amos Stevens

Amos Stevens

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Well I can't say specifically in this case,but not long ago we're discussing clips taken out of Glimmerman that had been shown in the trailer.
 
J.Lucas

J.Lucas

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I have some images posted that I "captured" from the US trailers here......that are not in the US versions of the films.

http://members.aol.com/seagal9970/chron.htm

but your trailer sounds like it had alot more scenes than the US one does......or at least the ones I've seen......
I've never seen a "sceener" of any movie..tho I have seen "The Foreignor" sceener available on E-Bay......
the theory is that trailers are made months .maybe even a year before a movie is released .....so whether it's post screening or just editorial judgement......there always seems to be something in a trailer that gets cut.....or changed
I think the missing scene where he kills Monkey with a chop to the throat would've been nice to leave in MFD....I never did understand that when he said "you f*** with my family...you die"...then just kicks him.....
and the ODG stills ...seem to indicate they may have been a bit more of a romantic connection between him & Chen....
John
 
Lotussan

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
"May have been a bit more of a romantic connection between him & Chen...."

Well, after all she's a woman, and he is sooo gorgeous who could resist getting closer? ;) :D Uh oh, I don't think Arissa will be very happy if she reads this...:eek:
 
TDWoj

TDWoj

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Originally posted by Lotussan
"May have been a bit more of a romantic connection between him & Chen...."

Well, after all she's a woman, and he is sooo gorgeous who could resist getting closer? ;) :D Uh oh, I don't think Arissa will be very happy if she reads this...:eek:
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<evil grin>

Having browsed through Steven's bio, I did the math - Arissa was all of twenty years old when she got "romantically involved" with him.

Kelly Le Brock, at least, was drop dead gorgeous. Arissa just looks like, well, a nannycat that swallowed the canary.

Downloaded a photo I liked (from another source) but they were both in the photo. Him I wanted to keep. Her I just Photoshopped right out of the shot. It was like she was never even there....

Considering his, um, track record with women, isn't it getting close to her expiration date?

<another evil grin>
 
TDWoj

TDWoj

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<teehee>

Well, it was a useful technical exercise, if nothing else, something I need to learn in my line of work.

I am deciding which next four DVDs to purchase, and from discussions about FDB, I'm thinking I'm going to include that one, since I haven't seen it. My video store doesn't carry it, though, so I can't "try it out" before purchasing.

:)
 
J.Lucas

J.Lucas

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Originally posted by TDWoj
[BI am deciding which next four DVDs to purchase, and from discussions about FDB, I'm thinking I'm going to include that one, since I haven't seen it.[/B]
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Well if you're a Seagal "nut"(as you said...lol)FDB is a good choice for various reasons ..........
FDB is a movie he wanted to make and was the last time he got totally into a movie as far as co-writing 5 songs for the soundtrack......He produced the soundtrack CD(2nd of 2 soundtracks he produced..OFJ being the 1st)...in promoting the movie he made numerous TV appearances and a rare I hour interview with Larry King....Being Princess Diana died the weekend before it's release(he was to do his interview on this show this day, but due to what happened he appeared on the panel discussing the problems of the papparazzi and his interview appeared the following weekend......also he & his band appeared live on the Prime Time Country show......did interviews with him and other musicians...some of which were in the movie..and they did played 4 tracks live from the soundtrack(as far as I know this was the only TV appearance of him and his band playing live)
FDB also marks the end of his 10 year Warner contract..and now was free to go independent....
I myself don't think it's a bad movie at all.....tho' I'm dissapointed in some of the fight sequences editing..it's like the editor took every 5th frame out of the scenes or something.....
FDB also is the companion to ODG(he directed) as far as being a "message " film about the ecology being destroyed...and also(to me) it is 1 of 2 more "atmospheric" movies.... in the way it was shot in the mountains of Kentucky(like ODG was shot in Alaska)......most every other film of his has the "city" scenario.
Anyway you can get the DVD for about $5 used at half.com....
Even the Under Seige DVD(new) is only $10 at bestbuy.com right now......
John
 
J.Lucas

J.Lucas

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Originally posted by TDWoj
Cool!
I'm looking forward to seeing it. :D :)
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Oh just a warning...if you can't stomach the country music/counrty scenario......pass on FDB......

If you want a good rock music....hard hitting...inner city scenario...go for OFJ.....he co-wrote 2 songs for that soundtrack and produced the CD as well(out of print but still obtainable for about $5 at either E-Bay or half.com)..............it's also stated in many articles that Seagal's "finger print" is on every frame of that movie.....meaning he was totally involved in some of the re-writing of the script(some ad-libbing..namely the "old man" scene with his wife...and in the movies editing process).......has a great fight sequence with Dan Inosanto.....who was a student and instructor of the late Bruce Lee...Inosanto also talks about Seagal in MAL'Master of Harmony issue '94)
Both FDB & OFJ DVDs have no extras except for Seagal movie trailers(minus MFD & ED)..and misc cast and locations in text info.

Or if you like the reggae sound......MFD is a good choice...Seagal co-wrote 1 song on the soundtrack...produced the 3 reggae tracks on the CD soundtrack(missing from the cassette tape version)..inner city & north Chicago suburbia Jamaican gang scenario...some location filming in Jamaica as well...has another classic fight scene that takes place in a mall...Seagal displays some of his swordsmanship......and of course has the much disputed "asspole" scene......which you can judge for yourself.....lol....lol
MFD DVD no extras...only MFD movie trailer.....picture DVD......widesceen version only whereas FDB & OFJ have wide & full screen formats.
John
 
J.Lucas

J.Lucas

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Originally posted by Amos Stevens
I happened to be at the music store the other day & thought I would check..they didn't make a CD for Half Past Dead?
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No....of course not.....any of the rap songs are on the artists' own labels.....
John
 
Lotussan

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Originally posted by TDWoj
downloaded a photo I liked (from another source) but they were both in the photo. Him I wanted to keep. Her I just Photoshopped right out of the shot. It was like she was never even there....
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If I e-mail you a pic of me, will you photoshop it next to one with Steven? :D I think we would make a faaabulous couple...Oh and if Arissa's date is close to expiring then I hope I'm next...Oh, Steven honey, Lotus really loves you... (Whispering....) :)
 
J.Lucas

J.Lucas

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Originally posted by Amos Stevens
LIke i'm going to go out & get each artists cd..not.Thanks John L
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lol.........lol........
Just download the songs you want...geeeezzzzzzzz......lol
I wouldn't pay a dime for any of them myself....
John
 
J.Lucas

J.Lucas

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Originally posted by Lotussan
If I e-mail you a pic of me, will you photoshop it next to one with Steven?
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Weren't you the one that was asking about legal permissions about using images?????........hahahahahahahahahaha
John
 
Lotussan

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
LOL, yes...Anyway, I don't care about photos with him, I just thought it would be nice to see how it would look....:D
 
J.Lucas

J.Lucas

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Originally posted by Lotussan
LOL, yes...Anyway, I don't care about photos with him, I just thought it would be nice to see how it would look....:D
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I was just teasing you....
John
 
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