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Van Damme too strong for Seagal??

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From Stallone himself (I mean, FHM mag reported this), in his party at home :

At a party in my home in Miami in 1997, Van Damme was tired of Seagal claiming he could kick his ass so he offered Seagal outside into my back yard. Seagal made his excuses and left. But Van Damme, who was berserk, tracked him down at a nightclub and offered him out again.Van Damme was too strong. Seagal wanted none of it.
http://www.joblo.com/arrow/index.php?id=12729

I don't know if this story is true or not but I sincerely doubt that Van Damme is too strong for Seagal. Van Damme is not a real master and there is no proof that he was a Karate champion. In addition, really, I don't think that the only simple kicks of Van Damme can do something against the strong Aikido techniques of 7th dan master Seagal.
 
#2
Couldnt agree more. If Seagal had chosen to kick the crap out of JCVD it would have taken seconds but the big man did the right thing and just walked away. JCVD would have only had the balls to do it as I expect he was high on coke at the time!
 

Martina Taft

Steven Seagl Fan #1
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BNO WAAAY! vandamme is a nobody, no good, has been, drunkard, coke sniffing iditiot who would stand less of a chance than a snowball in hjell against SENSEI! Steven just wanted none of it and made a wise decision to spare vandamme. Complete nonsense.
 

NCS

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Why is it that all Seagal fans hate Van Damme and all Van Damme fans hate Seagal? I love them both. Van Damme has managed to overcome problems like drink and drugs and divorce and has even managed to get a limited US theatrical run for his new film, he isn't a has-been. Seagal and Van Damme are pretty much in the same position and unless there was an actual FAIR fight no one can tell who would win.
 
#6
Personally, I don't hate Van Damme. But honestly, Van Damme has no techniques, he is just able to rise his legs. That’s it! In opposite, Seagal has a powerful Aikido and he can perform very strong techniques. And during his life, really, I think Seagal has met stronger guy than Van Damme.
 
#7
Not this story again.. i think the boots on the wrong foot it would have been van damme bragging again...it takes an REAL man to walk away and thats just what steven did knowing van damme he would have carried on like an cut snake just because steven didnt kick his ass ..it doesnt come down whos the strongest just the one with the balls..
 
#9
In private life Seagal is a man of peace and serenity. He focuses on the Buddhist way which is a respect for all sentient beings.

Van Damme is a self indulgent person only conerned with boosting up his sagging ego and low self esteem.

Seagal is the stronger man as he is wise enough to walk away from a silly spat. Seagal not only is great at martial arts, but focuses on the thinking behind it.

A look at Van Damme, and his behaviour was appalling when in Australia, reveals a petty little man desperately craving attention. He is a coke head. He is a loser.

I am glad Seagal wouldn't waste a micro second on Van Damme. Seagal has nothing to prove. Van Damme can prove nothing.

Kerouac.
 
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Kerouac;190483 said:
In private life Seagal is a man of peace and serenity. He focuses on the Buddhist way which is a respect for all sentient beings.

Van Damme is a self indulgent person only conerned with boosting up his sagging ego and low self esteem.

Seagal is the stronger man as he is wise enough to walk away from a silly spat. Seagal not only is great at martial arts, but focuses on the thinking behind it.

A look at Van Damme, and his behaviour was appalling when in Australia, reveals a petty little man desperately craving attention. He is a coke head. He is a loser.

I am glad Seagal wouldn't waste a micro second on Van Damme. Seagal has nothing to prove. Van Damme can prove nothing.

Kerouac.
Well said Kerouac. And exactly right on!
:)
 
#14
Hi Orangatuang,

I was referring to the time he was out here making that flick with Kylie Minogue.

During that time he sexually harassed a female journalist.

As for being awesome you guys seem to have a pretty low set of standards.

The fact that he is muscle bound and on drugs and steriods should not make him a role model. Take a good look at him in his movies and you'll see he has to surround himself with midgets so that he looks like a big guy, Kylie Minogue is a little budgie and he barely tops her for height.

Kerouac
 

NCS

Active Member
#15
Why would size make any difference? I'm also not sure that he used steriods there is no proof of that and the man has made some excellent movies in his time.
 
#16
It does make a difference when they surround him with twerps and he is depicted as the ultimate fighting machine.

Also notice in his flicks how the camera shoots from a low angle to give th eimpression that he is not vertically challenged.

When questioned about steriod use Van Damme is coy on the subject. A simple no from him would clear many doubts.

His sexual harassment of women is well known and common knowledge around the world, as is his continued drug usuage. He seems unable to genuinely attract women and hence goes after them like a predator.

As for Seagal he works on developing his Buddhist practice and treating all living creatures will love and respect. Is Seagal perfect? No, but unlike Van Damme, he has a moral system.

The only thing Van Damme ownes that is smaller than his blown up petite frame is his total lack of humility.

He's your hero? Fine, you'll get no competition from me on that score.

Kerouac
 

NCS

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Yeah but Seagal has had lots of rumours about him harrassing women, Van Damme don't do drugs anymore and he has re-married after divorce and patched things up. But Seagal is RUMOURED to have assaulted Kelly LeBrock and a woman who was auditioning for a part in On Deadly Ground and he's assaulted numerous stuntmen according to various different sources...morals?
 
#18
Hi NCS,

My initial point still stands about Seagal. He is working on his Buddhist practice and he does have moral standards. I admitted he's not perfect, but what you have said negative about him is all rumours.

Van Damme's sexual harassment of women is a fact. He will not return to Australia because as soon as he does he will be hit with a sexual assault claim from an Australian journalist. That is NOT a rumour but a fact.

Look at Van Damme's appearance at the Cannes Film Festival and if you can't tell he was 'off his face' on drugs I'll be happy to sell you the Sydney Opera House for $250.

Kerouac
 
#19
Well, for my part, I like them both, at least as action stars, since I don't really know them as people.
I also like Wesley Snipes, Chuck Norris, and Dolph Lundgren, from an action movie perspective, among many others.
I don't really understand the need to place one above the other except as to which movies one might like above another. I was very happy back in the days when their movies competed against each other at the box office, I really wish they could each get back to that status.
As for rumors, no one who isn't personally in the know can be sure what's true and what isn't. Of course, it's always easy to believe negative rumors about someone you don't like and to disbelieve rumors about those you do like.
Bottom line, most of us will never know the whole truth.
And I'm ok with that, I like their movies , I don't model my life around theirs. Maybe I'm odd man out on this here.
Also, the idea that JC's physical stature is any indication of his quality as a human being is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen.
Steven is overweight, does that speak to his own quality as a person?
Of course not.
You don't have to like JC's movies or even what you know about him or think you know, but try to keep it real, please.
My 2 bits, ok, back to lurk mode, carry on!
Kevin
 
#20
Hi Bigron,

Of course JCVD's size as a factor in his action man status.

You're the one who is being silly here.

Because he's so small they shoot him from distorted angles to give the impression he's a big, tough guy. He is not.

Further they do surround small actors around him to give the illusion he's a big guy.

As far as the drugs are concerned JCVD has admitted to the use of them so it isn't a rumour but a fact. His sexual abuse of an Australian journalist is also not a rumour but is a fact on the public record. He is scared to return to Australia and face the music.

His incoherent presentation at the last Cannes Film Festival and his disheveled appearance would indication continued drug usage.

He's not a tough guy, but a little guy on steriods who tries to act the bad arse.

As far as Seagal is conerned, yes he is overwieght. He also is concerned about the environment, AIDS in Africa, cruelty to animals and the Tibetan cause. JCVD, on the other hand, is more conerned about drinking, drugging and pretenting to be someone he's not e.g. a real martial aritist in both behaviour and thought.

When you read this, note how your last response appears to be silly and not mine.

Kerouac
 
#20
Hi Kevin,

I am keeping it real.

JCVD has admitted ot drug abuse, it is not a rumour. His incoherent presentation at the Cannes Film Festival and disheveled appearane would indicate continued drug usuage.

When he has been asked about steroid usuage he has balked at giving an answer. (Fact)

He is wanted in Australia for unwanted sexual behaviour inflicted on a female journalist. (Fact)

JCVD is a little pip squeek who has 'small' actors around him and is shot at camera angles so that he appears bigger than he really is. (Fact)

I made no reference to any rumours, but material that is on the public record.

As for Steven Seagal, he is overweight. He is also a supporter of the Tibetan cause, expressed concern for the oppression taking place in Burma, invoved with the issue of AIDS in Africa, an environmenatlist and animal rights activist. In other words, unlike JCVD, there is more to him than mere pseudo-heroic behavour on the silver screen. He is also involved in heroic causes in the real world.

So, before you accuse me of rumours it would help if you actually knew something about the people concerned.

Kerouac
 
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