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SeagalAddict

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don wilkey;182924 said:
i concur lee. I just love 'striing/boiling' the blood of my fellow members once in awhile, LOL. Especially, when they boil/stir my blood with their unrealistic cinematic statements of Steven Seagal's true achievements, which they never have a positive comment on. With their postings, it's always straight to the 'let's type some garbage about Steven Seagal's present health or physical path'. You get my drift lee? Someone's got to stand up for Steven Seagal online for all he's given to us fans.

I agree with you 100%. The reason for all the Seagal-bashing is, I think, mostly because some folks just love to diss those who are considered Icons. It makes them feel good about their own inadequacies. They hate the fact that Steven is adored by so many loyal fans, can't stand it one bit. Because maybe nobody ever gives a damn what happens to them in their miserable pathetic lives!!

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Donald Lee Wilkey

A Steven Seagal fan
marky96;182933 said:
That is very true lee nicholson. I love action films, but I also love lots of other types of films. These are types of films that don't feature Seagal, but that doesn't mean I support him any less.

I don't think that Seagal really needs you defending him, don. The comments I made further up the post were supposed to be taken in jest. It is a shame that some people are too uptight and too obsessed with Seagal to see that. If I ever comment on Seagal's health or weight I always try to do so in the context of his films and not as a point on it's own. In fact I don't think there is anyone on this board who brings it up just for the sake of it?

marky96,
thanks for clearing up your posted mess. I jest as well about the establishment of the 'blue eyed/blond haired actors of today as well. It's just nice to see a good ol' brown eyed/black haired boy like Steven Seagal stand up to the establishment and put out films that rival theirs with good scripts and dialogues on film. Plus, i don't see Arnold Schwarzenegger doing any film making lately? I really believe Steven Seagal is a stumbling block to Arny Schwarzenegger's ego in reality.
 

Donald Lee Wilkey

A Steven Seagal fan
lee nicholson;182905 said:
Don

We all know you like Seagal, but you can over-do the worship sometimes?

Seagal is great at what he does....yes!
But other actors are equally as good at playing tough guys.
Harvey Keitel is a great actor that can exhibit , rage, toughness, weakness and kindness, without having to 'snap' peoples arms. I know you like Seagal, Don, but you can actually stray outside the perameters of the 'action' genre, and watch other stars.
Toughness doesn't always mean 'killing' people?


lee,
you don't know me very well do you, LOL? From my observations, Steven Seagal goes at making films like a pit bull. Steven Seagal wants to make certain that other actors better be on the ball with promoting believeabilty or stay out of the 'hero' arena in a movie, that's why he defeats bad guys with such umph' and bravado', you don't see that in a Arnold Schwarzenegger film. Haven't you figured this out by now? Todays actors best get their trips together before they try to compete with Steven Seagal and Steamroller Productions.
 

marky96

Active Member
Don, perhaps the reason we don't see Arnold Schwarzenegger in films anymore is because he is the Governor of California?
 

ORANGATUANG

Wildfire
Question i heard on the grapevine that once an actor chooses another venture he cant go back to acting again ..i think thats bull ..just want to know if thats true or not?..
 

Mystery Mom

Queen of the Mist
I believe

Fred Thompson is the only actor who went into politics and returned to acting.

All the others basically retired from acting when they made the move.

George Murphy
Ronald Reagan
Fred Grandy
Arnold Schwartzenegger
Fred Thompson
 

Sue

c/o naughty corner
Maybe a question is why did they go out of acting? Perhaps they didn't want to do it any more or there were no longer the right projects for them.

I think Arnie could drop out of politics and go back to acting anytime, if he wanted to that is.
 

Mystery Mom

Queen of the Mist
All of them

Could have returned to acting if they chose to do so.

It is a matter of age, growth as a person and a change of interests.

Of course, box office receipts make a difference as well.

George Murphy was a song and dance man from the 40's - his time in films seemed to pass by and he moved into politics.

Reagan was pretty much a B movie actor. Well liked but not real big box office. Among the last things he did was television, a real death knell to a movie career in those days. Politics was the next step for him. So he ran for Governor of California and the rest is history.

Fred Grandy - bless him he had a good heart. He went into politics because he wanted to change things. He faced the disillusionment of the good ole boy

network in the political arena and all the struggles he faced finally defeated him.

Arnie, well, look who he married. Him going into politics really was a no brainer.

Fred Thompson - He was another who tried to change the system - One way to stay in the public eye was his Law & Order role. Good for him. Still star power does not always buy the election.

The thing is, for all these people, to see them elected sends a message from the voting public. The desire for change and the need to change the political system, especially the constant and continual reelections of the same people time after time. But such subjects are really not for here.

These five men all deserve respect for trying to give back to the public something other than a screen persona. Though in some cases I wonder just how much acting they managed to continue in their new careers.
Myst
 

Donald Lee Wilkey

A Steven Seagal fan
Mystery Mom;183167 said:
Could have returned to acting if they chose to do so.

It is a matter of age, growth as a person and a change of interests.

Of course, box office receipts make a difference as well.

George Murphy was a song and dance man from the 40's - his time in films seemed to pass by and he moved into politics.

Reagan was pretty much a B movie actor. Well liked but not real big box office. Among the last things he did was television, a real death knell to a movie career in those days. Politics was the next step for him. So he ran for Governor of California and the rest is history.

Fred Grandy - bless him he had a good heart. He went into politics because he wanted to change things. He faced the disillusionment of the good ole boy

network in the political arena and all the struggles he faced finally defeated him.

Arnie, well, look who he married. Him going into politics really was a no brainer.

Fred Thompson - He was another who tried to change the system - One way to stay in the public eye was his Law & Order role. Good for him. Still star power does not always buy the election.

The thing is, for all these people, to see them elected sends a message from the voting public. The desire for change and the need to change the political system, especially the constant and continual reelections of the same people time after time. But such subjects are really not for here.

These five men all deserve respect for trying to give back to the public something other than a screen persona. Though in some cases I wonder just how much acting they managed to continue in their new careers.
Myst

Case point taken and concurred MM! :eek: Just how much sincerity is Gov. A. Schwarzenegger realistically applying to the office and how much is his 'dumbbell mentality with movie making' is involved while serving the people as governer of California?:rolleyes:
 

Mystery Mom

Queen of the Mist
Don Wilkey

I no longer live in California.
I did not vote for this man for Governor.
His wife comes from long standing Democratic family and he is a Republican.
I think he was 'sincere' in his desire to run for political office and only a Californian can respond to whatever it is you mean about 'dumbbell mentality with movie making' for I surely do not understand just what you mean by that.

As far as his movie career goes, he has made a few films that I have enjoyed, and I do not choose to put him in competition with any other movie actor as far as comparison of personal qualities goes.

There are actors that I do not care for and would not waste time or money watching. But to run comparisons between actors is like comparing your children with each other. Something that most parents would not or will not do as each child brings to life their own qualities, uniqueness and diversity. So it should be with how we judge people in general. We all have good qualities and we all have faults. I miss an awful lot if all I look for is your faults. It is so much nicer to find that good quality in person and in you it is your devotion to Steven Seagal and the Native American peoples.

Am I wrong about you?
If so then tell me something good about yourself.
Myst
 

ORANGATUANG

Wildfire
I would like to see Arnie back in action again...over here iam stuck on an show called
Terminator:The Sarah Connor Chronicles maybe he could play an guest appearance in that as an good Terminator come back to help her rid of those bad ones that female robot is ok but she aint no Arnie thats for sure..
 

Donald Lee Wilkey

A Steven Seagal fan
Mystery Mom;183241 said:
I no longer live in California.
I did not vote for this man for Governor.
His wife comes from long standing Democratic family and he is a Republican.
I think he was 'sincere' in his desire to run for political office and only a Californian can respond to whatever it is you mean about 'dumbbell mentality with movie making' for I surely do not understand just what you mean by that.

As far as his movie career goes, he has made a few films that I have enjoyed, and I do not choose to put him in competition with any other movie actor as far as comparison of personal qualities goes.

There are actors that I do not care for and would not waste time or money watching. But to run comparisons between actors is like comparing your children with each other. Something that most parents would not or will not do as each child brings to life their own qualities, uniqueness and diversity. So it should be with how we judge people in general. We all have good qualities and we all have faults. I miss an awful lot if all I look for is your faults. It is so much nicer to find that good quality in person and in you it is your devotion to Steven Seagal and the Native American peoples.

Am I wrong about you?
If so then tell me something good about yourself.
Myst

Myst,
well posted. If i interpret your reply correctly, you are complimenting me?
 

Donald Lee Wilkey

A Steven Seagal fan
marky96;183316 said:
Very well said Mystery Mom. I think we are all getting a little tired of don.

simmer down 96, simmer down. Don't hate me because i'm a Steven Seagal fan? marky, when's the last time you threaded or posted something encouraging about Steven Seagal movies? i don't hate you because you're marky96.
 

marky96

Active Member
Well when Seagal is making films like Attack Force (2006) don, it is difficult to find something encouraging to say.

You're right Mystery Mom, I am a very naughty boy. You should put me over your knee and give me a good hard spanking :D
 
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