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Why do they dub someone else's voice in?

#1
Hi,

I've noticed that in his last few movies that some other guy is speaking when Steven's mouth is moving or when the camera is not on him. Not all the time, but some of the time. Why is that? Man is it annoying!

kris
 

TDWoj

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#3
krism said:
Hi,

I've noticed that in his last few movies that some other guy is speaking when Steven's mouth is moving or when the camera is not on him. Not all the time, but some of the time. Why is that? Man is it annoying!

kris
We've had this discussion endless times. Some people come down on one side - that it wasn't built in his contract to do post-production work (which in my opinion seems odd, from what I know about the movie business). Other people come down on the other side - that he simply can't be bothered to do post-production work. There's nothing wrong with his voice, else why would he be trying to break into the music business as a singer and a musician?

No one really knows. If you want to see what's been discussed already, try this thread: http://www.steven-seagal.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3949.
 
#5
From IMDB a post by a user 'mcmanus5':

"Being a very close, and personal friend of Steven's, I must say (...) yes, it is true that his voice is dubbed at points in the movie. The reason, as mentioned in the other posts is due to the cost as well as Steven's VERY busy schedule working on several film projects as well as his music career.

Blessings,
Tulku Tenzin Chophak Rinpoche "

I don't know whether this is true, or not, anyway, no reason to think, that it is not.
 
#6
i understand where that comment is coming from but busy or not he still has to be there to be filmed then dubbed meaning it wont really make any difference to his busy schedule if he tlk while being filmed or not.
 

mikek7316

Engorged Member
#7
krism said:
Hi,

I've noticed that in his last few movies that some other guy is speaking when Steven's mouth is moving or when the camera is not on him. Not all the time, but some of the time. Why is that? Man is it annoying!

kris
I think the reason for this is two-pronged:
One, Seagal has a very soft, low voice that is probably difficult to pick up on the microphones used in filming.
Two, Seagal is a bad actor, so even a dubbed voice is more convincing than Seagal's monotone emoting.
 

suziwong

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#8
Kcs said:
From IMDB a post by a user 'mcmanus5':

"Being a very close, and personal friend of Steven's, I must say (...) yes, it is true that his voice is dubbed at points in the movie. The reason, as mentioned in the other posts is due to the cost as well as Steven's VERY busy schedule working on several film projects as well as his music career.

Blessings,
Tulku Tenzin Chophak Rinpoche "

I don't know whether this is true, or not, anyway, no reason to think, that it is not.
I know this man yes he is very close to him and it means it is true..

suzi
 

TDWoj

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#9
It may be true; but why is Steven so busy when other actors seem to find the time to complete their movies? It's a poor excuse; I'm not buying it. And, look at the source- "imdb.com". Remember, anybody can post anything on imdb.com. It doesn't mean it's true.
 
#10
krism said:
Hi,

I've noticed that in his last few movies that some other guy is speaking when Steven's mouth is moving or when the camera is not on him. Not all the time, but some of the time. Why is that? Man is it annoying!

kris

Because he is a washed up actor who's career is over!! He is fat has stunts do all of his work, has voice dubbed over!! When is he ever going to go away?
 

TDWoj

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#11
Lollipop said:
Because he is a washed up actor who's career is over!! He is fat has stunts do all of his work, has voice dubbed over!! When is he ever going to go away?
You're such a hoot, Lollipop! If I were Steven, I'd be nervous! You'd straighten his act out in a New York minute, you would! :D
 

Serena

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#12
Lollipop said:
Because he is a washed up actor who's career is over!! He is fat has stunts do all of his work, has voice dubbed over!! When is he ever going to go away?
Had his voice dubbed over? :confused: Did I miss someone saying that somehow?
;) :D
 
#13
Serena said:
Had his voice dubbed over? :confused: Did I miss someone saying that somehow?
;) :D

If you missed it, you can not read or see! I think it is a part of every thread now!! Just trying to be agreeable! Don't want it said I don't play well with others!! :D :D
 

DiDa

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#14
Kcs said:
From IMDB a post by a user 'mcmanus5':

"Being a very close, and personal friend of Steven's, I must say (...) yes, it is true that his voice is dubbed at points in the movie. The reason, as mentioned in the other posts is due to the cost as well as Steven's VERY busy schedule working on several film projects as well as his music career.

Blessings,
Tulku Tenzin Chophak Rinpoche "

I don't know whether this is true, or not, anyway, no reason to think, that it is not.
Well, if he is busy, i would suggest that he makes 2 movies in a year instead of 4! He just has to take his time to work on the post-production. I would rather see 2 movies where you can here Steven's own voice then 4 movies where we hear the voice dubbing.He just has to take his time on filmmaking. Nobody of his fans is saying that he has to make 4 movies in a year. Take more time for a movie and maybe the quality will be better!!
 
#15
DiDa said:
Well, if he is busy, i would suggest that he makes 2 movies in a year instead of 4! He just has to take his time to work on the post-production. I would rather see 2 movies where you can here Steven's own voice then 4 movies where we hear the voice dubbing.He just has to take his time on filmmaking. Nobody of his fans is saying that he has to make 4 movies in a year. Take more time for a movie and maybe the quality will be better!!
Imagine the situation:

X: Hi, Steven. We would like you to star in our film. We'd pay 4 million dollars to you.

Seagal: Well, no thanks. I'm already working on two films. I prefer the post-production work.
 

DiDa

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#16
You're right about that. But the 4 millions can become more if you take your time with making a movie to reach better quality. Then he will get better offers by the studios and then maybe is able to make Under Siege 3! And i think Steven has to do it for his fans....
 

Donald Lee Wilkey

A Steven Seagal fan
#17
it might be that steven seagal practices ki-ai shouts or spiritual chants of holy sounds on a daily basis?
that certainly explains it for me as to why he overdubs his voice in movies nowadays
His voice is overworked from chanting and shouting after his exercises
 

TDWoj

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#18
don wilkey said:
it might be that steven seagal practices ki-ai shouts or spiritual chants of holy sounds on a daily basis?
that certainly explains it for me as to why he overdubs his voice in movies nowadays
His voice is overworked from chanting and shouting after his exercises
No - he's simply not under contract to do any post-production work, especially since post-production work would require him to go back to whatever country he filmed the movie in, and that he won't do. If they don't get the sound right while he's there, they have to dub in a voice-double. It's as simple as that.
 

Donald Lee Wilkey

A Steven Seagal fan
#19
TDWoj said:
No - he's simply not under contract to do any post-production work, especially since post-production work would require him to go back to whatever country he filmed the movie in, and that he won't do. If they don't get the sound right while he's there, they have to dub in a voice-double. It's as simple as that.
thanks TDwoj, i just learned something new about film making today
 

TDWoj

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#20
Eh, sorry if I sounded a bit - well. We've discussed this topic endlessly, and we've just recently had it confirmed that it's a contract issue. Though why anyone making a movie would leave something like this out, is beyond my meagre comprehension.