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Seagal's Aikido style???

#61
Well, the only thing is true is that Shihan Seagal took Machado ground fighting jiu-jitsu classes for Under Siege II, as Chuck Norris that also studied with them for Walke Texas Ranger, and also Seagal studied Karate when he was young, and Kung-fu, Tai Chi even Kali, in the last years.

He said this in interviews since 1991.Then I´m sure that all that stuff influence his Aikido style, in the same way the pop and the reggae influence his music.

Furthermore, many Aikido warm(ing)-up excercises(more than 1.000, you do depend the class you´ll do after that)are from Qui Gong.

Then, I think that no one must to be shocked for that.Everything is done in movies, music and martial arts.

In my opinion, the special feature of Aikido is the hip work united to the breathe, extension and the HARA, the focused centre and the circular work.

The techniques have invented centuries ago.The concept, the way to mix the things is what make something different, even unique.

This is what Ueshiba did.
 
#62
latinojazz said:
Well, the only thing is true is that Shihan Seagal took Machado ground fighting jiu-jitsu classes for Under Siege II, as Chuck Norris that also studied with them for Walke Texas Ranger, and also Seagal studied Karate when he was young, and Kung-fu, Tai Chi even Kali, in the last years.

He said this in interviews since 1991.Then I´m sure that all that stuff influence his Aikido style, in the same way the pop and the reggae influence his music.

Furthermore, many Aikido warm(ing)-up excercises(more than 1.000, you do depend the class you´ll do after that)are from Qui Gong.

Then, I think that no one must to be shocked for that.Everything is done in movies, music and martial arts.

In my opinion, the special feature of Aikido is the hip work united to the breathe, extension and the HARA, the focused centre and the circular work.

The techniques have invented centuries ago.The concept, the way to mix the things is what make something different, even unique.

This is what Ueshiba did.

Not only did Chuck Norris study Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for Walker Texas Ranger, he is a certified Black Belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu as well.
 
#63
Tenshin and Aikilove Listen!!!!!

You believe to know Aikido but you know anything.....I trained in Aikido for 18 years and now daito since 3 years. I went to Japan and i discussed with PEOPLE WO LIVED THE HISTORY OF AIKIDO like Inoue, Nishikito, Okamoto Sensei. Where did you learn the history of Aikido??? in BOOKS AND IN THE AIKIDOJOURNAL WEB SITE.....Why don't you believe me....Why don't you learn new something things from another people who maybe have more experience..... One fondamental question: did you go in Japan???? I went to Hokkaido where Ueshiba Sensei learnt Aikijujutsu from Takeda Sensei!!!!

It's amazing to read this one!!
"am not sure if your trying to assert the superiority of your art over Aikido,"
My art???? my art like you sait allow you to train in Aikido!!!!! You train in Aikido because Ueshiba learnt Aikijujutsu from Takeda....With the great respect thar i have for Ueshiba Sensei, he didn't invent the technique that you did all the days during your training!!!

He simplified strongly the daito-ryu aikijujutsu with a lot of philosophy and religious concept. During his research he allow all people of the world to train in Aikido with the technical basis of Aikijujutsu....This is what the Master that i met in Japan told me!!!! CAN YOU BELIEVE AND UNDERSTAND THIS PLEASE!!!!!!

I didn't say that Seagal Sensei trained in Aikijujutsu....i have just said that in his training there are some techniques from daito-ryu like Strongulation but also others techniques Aikilove others techniques because you focused in Strongulation....Right there are Strongulation in others martial art but i recognize thypical techniques from the daito!!!! There a lot of people who do daito techniques after saw in Seminar or personal research (like a guy in Spain i don't remember his name) because it is clear that Seagal did a synthesis from differents styles to do his own style : an example: the Irimi Nage in the Seagal training: i have never seen it in others school of Aikido.

To finish:
Open you mind to another things...See others things that Aikido!!! If you want come in Hokkaido or Tokkyo to meet Inoue or Okamoto Sensei!!! You will understand after these master applied techniques on you (like the amazing technique katameru waza) why Ueshiba in a technical way he simplified the daito techniques!!!!!

"have recently started training in Daito Ryu" where do you study Tenshin???? if it's not in Japan or by a very advanced guy who studied in Japan.. please stop your training in Daito, you loss your time!!!
 

tenshinaikidoka

Martial Art Student
#64
DaitoRyu Fighter,

Let me first state that I AM taking Daito Ryu from a study group who is affiliated with a very known Daito Ryu master. Second, I will not get into who I train with as I have learned early on how political things work in the martial arts and I am not going there. I am not training daily or weekly, it is something I have to do where I fly out and train for several days and then bring back what I have learned. If you think it is "my loss my time" or whatever that is supposed to mean, well, that is your opinion and yours only. I am studying Daito Ryu for many reasons, and they are my reasons.

Neither Aikilove nor myself need any history from you regarding Aikido/Daito Ryu I think we both have an understanding that Aikido has a curriculm taken from Daito Ryu, we have not disputed this.

And with respect for training in Japan, I do not need to go to Japan to train to "legititimize" my art, my training or what I know. I have learned what I know by speaking to sensei's, researching and talking to shihans when they come in my area and do seminars (such as Isoyama Shihan). Please do not think that by going to Japan taht it makes you or anyone more superior or more knowledgable.

You are right though, katameru waza is a very impressive technique!!!!

And for me to finish, if you said that Seagal didn't train in Daito Ryu, then what did you say, I must have misread it. Because if he did a Daito Ryu technique, and you say you know a Daito Ryu technique from other techniques, then Seagal must have studied Daito Ryu to have applied a DR technique, correct? I am only going by what you say. And yet, for someone who has studied Aikido for 18 years and Daito Ryu (Roppokai I am thinking) for 3, you sure are an agressive person and confrontational when it comes to these things. Are you a bully and like to start fights????? Please understand, I am not trying to start a fight here, I am trying to understand wher you are coming from, I do respect your opinion. I just wish you would also respect mine and others!!!!!!
 
#64
Littledragon said:
Not only did Chuck Norris study Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for Walker Texas Ranger, he is a certified Black Belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu as well.
I do not surprise.Chuck Norris always worked hard, I admired him for that.

He was born in 1940, is 11 years older than Steven and is in really best shape than him.Steven in Today you die looks 60!!!

Yeah Chuck Norris is an admirable and constant man.
 

tenshinaikidoka

Martial Art Student
#65
I still think Norris is impressive, regardless of what he has put out recently. I loved Walker and always waited for the end of the show when the good fight scenes were sure to be on!!!!
 
#65
tenshinaikidoka said:
I still think Norris is impressive, regardless of what he has put out recently. I loved Walker and always waited for the end of the show when the good fight scenes were sure to be on!!!!
I used to not like Norris, but gave him another try and since then I became a huge fan. I started ordering and buying all of his old classic movies on DVD such as The Octagon, Delta Force 2, Hero And The Terror, HellBound, Forced Vengeance, etc..
 

tenshinaikidoka

Martial Art Student
#66
Ah yes, the classic Norris films, the ones after Bruce Lee whipped him!!! I still like the guy. He did have a hard go of it in the movie business in the begining, interesting indeed. I need to start ordering his movies on DVD!!!
 
#66
tenshinaikidoka said:
Ah yes, the classic Norris films, the ones after Bruce Lee whipped him!!! I still like the guy. He did have a hard go of it in the movie business in the begining, interesting indeed. I need to start ordering his movies on DVD!!!
Code of Slence, with Chuck Norris, DVD will be released Jan. 3, 2006. I like him a lot.
 

Mason

Well-Known Member
#68
Sorry I havnt replyed to he thread yet..I'v been busy. Thanks to all who have contribute to my thread and knowlege about Seagal and Aikido. :) :cool:
 

take-sensei

Die Hard Seagal fan!
#70
tenshinaikidoka what is you're Dan in Daito Ryu, are is it called different in Daito Ryu? And did you also trained Aikido?

greets take-sensei
 
#71
No Aikido School around

Look for a Hapkido School or Judo. However I would go with Judo before Hapkido, here is why: It is hard to find a legitimate traditional hapkido school. I know the naysayers don't believe it to be true but it is.
 
#72
Choi and Usheba, sorry if I misspelled learned from Takeda. That is why the similiarity. However it is hard to find a good traditional hapkido school that teaches true hapkido. I know my father is a master in hapkido, his instructor learned from wha kwan wha. Wha was one of Choi's first 11 students. If you are looking for a good art to learn then look at Judo. Judo is a great art for conditioning and self defense. Good luck. Hey by the way there is a school here in St. Louis called Aikido-Three Rivers Martial Arts. The students and instructor fly out to Segal's ranch and test for their belt advancements once a year.
 
#73
just asking how can i learn aikido? there's no school for aikido in my location.
i like to learn aikido.do you think books or video can help m?
 

Aikilove

Old member aikidoka
#74
Are you sure you don't have any around? I found these at www.aikidojournal.com using manila as search word and averything else open:

Ps. MAC (makati aikido club) and Sacred heart aikido center seem to be two nice clubs.

Philippine Budokkan Aikido Federation Inc.
Traditional / Pacito Moises / Ph. (063) 9174362009
Lucban Elementary School, Magsaysay Ave. / Baguio , Benguet 2600 / Philippines

Cagayan de Oro Aikido Dojo
Aikikai, FFA / Oscar Mistula / Ph. 63 8822 724163
Clark Hatch Gym, Lim Ket Kai Center / Cagayan de Oro City, 9000 / Philippines

INTUKO KI SOCIETY
Shin-shinToitsu Aikido / URSING ELISEO / Ph. 000-0000
MJ. CUENCO AVE., MABOLO CEBU CITY / cebu, 6000 / Philippines

sacredheartaikido
aikido / benson rafanan
sacred heart center / cebu, cebu 6000 / Philippines

Black Panther Yoshinkan
Yoshinkan / Donny Azarcon / Ph. +639279139334
Fort Brigade, Philippine Marines, Fort Bonifacio / Makati, 2001 / Philippines

Makati Aikido Club
Japan Aikikai Hombu Dojo / Royce Reyes / Ph. 899-6380
Makati YMCA, #7 Sacred Heart (formerly Dao) Street / San Antonio Village, Makati City / Philippines

Valenzuela Aikido Dojo
Aiki Philippines / Sensei Andy Bartolome / Sensei Lucio Alejo, Jr.
Baler St. Brgy Valenzuela, Santiago Village, / makati city, / Philippines

Traditional Aikido Philippines
Iwama / Takemusu Aikido Association / Dennis Tatoian / Ph. 632-747-0387
KDA Studio Metrobadminton Complex Pioneer Street / Mandaluyong City / Philippines

PHILIPPINE AIKIKAI
AIKIKAI / OMAR CAMAR
QUIAPO METRO MANILA, PHILIPPINES / MANILA, QUIAPO / Philippines

Shinbu Dojo
Aikikai, Aikido Philippines / Cris Buenaseda, 4th Dan; Willy Li, 4th Dan / Ph. (63)9173309689
National Museum Building , P. Burgos St. / Manila / Philippines

philippine aiki-parpagkam
phil. aikido federation / manuel aoldfo sensei / Ph. (054)4733086
Main St., Magsaysay Avenue, Naga City Philippines 4400 / Naga City, Camarines Sur 4400 / Philippines
 

Donald Lee Wilkey

A Steven Seagal fan
#77
In Steven Seagal movies and interviews appears he uses the three sister soft styles of ba gua zhang, hsing i chuan, tai chi chuan, and qi gong exercises
Also, Steven Seagal is educated with and incoporates chi, ki, prana, esoteric or universal energy breathing to enhance his aikido